musclenz.....
You should get your facts right about Physio and the treatment of rotator cuff injuries before posting statements like those made. They are incorrect and misleading to anyone seeking assistance with a shoulder injury. Shoulder injuries are by far the most prevalent of injuries seen by physiotherapists working with body builders / power lifters / the gym fraternity.
Why would you go immediately to a sports physician with a painful shoulder when Physiotherapists specialise in the correct diagnosis and treatment of this type of injury on a daily basis? Sports Physicians are better utilised as a means of dealing with a non resolving injuries that have perhaps a dgree of complexity attached to them - may require intervention from a medication angle(Cortisone, autologous blood injection, further high tech imaging, NSAIDS etc) may also be used as next port of call if an orthopaedic specialist opinion / surgery is indicated)
For your information: if on assessment the Physiotherapist feels that clinically there may be a tear/partial tear of the RC, subacromial bursitis or involvement of the long head of biceps, they will in most cases as a normal course of reaching an accurate differential diagnosis, send the client for an ultrasound scan. Yes ... they can refer clients directly to scanning, and in most cases if the injury is covered by ACC, can arrange to have this ultrasound done at no cost to the client.
WAY too much 'hit and miss' web based self diagnosis goin on in this forum for my liking... beginning to make me cringe.
In summary: If you are injured get to a physio and get the right advice... share your stories on here great!! But to just listen to some of the random Sh...t someone on a message board posted is plain stupid!!!
Arrrhh.
Peace Out!

Mr B HUGE wrote:musclenz.....
You should get your facts right about Physio and the treatment of rotator cuff injuries before posting statements like those made. They are incorrect and misleading to anyone seeking assistance with a shoulder injury. Shoulder injuries are by far the most prevalent of injuries seen by physiotherapists working with body builders / power lifters / the gym fraternity.
Why would you go immediately to a sports physician with a painful shoulder when Physiotherapists specialise in the correct diagnosis and treatment of this type of injury on a daily basis? Sports Physicians are better utilised as a means of dealing with a non resolving injuries that have perhaps a dgree of complexity attached to them - may require intervention from a medication angle(Cortisone, autologous blood injection, further high tech imaging, NSAIDS etc) may also be used as next port of call if an orthopaedic specialist opinion / surgery is indicated)
For your information: if on assessment the Physiotherapist feels that clinically there may be a tear/partial tear of the RC, subacromial bursitis or involvement of the long head of biceps, they will in most cases as a normal course of reaching an accurate differential diagnosis, send the client for an ultrasound scan. Yes ... they can refer clients directly to scanning, and in most cases if the injury is covered by ACC, can arrange to have this ultrasound done at no cost to the client.
WAY too much 'hit and miss' web based self diagnosis goin on in this forum for my liking... beginning to make me cringe.
In summary: If you are injured get to a physio and get the right advice... share your stories on here great!! But to just listen to some of the random Sh...t someone on a message board posted is plain stupid!!!
Arrrhh.
Peace Out!

I did not say Physios are not suitable to consult for the treatment of RC injuries. I made a statement based on my own personal experience that involved a torn subscap tendon & a displaced bicep tendon that had been treated by a very well known Sports Based CHC Physio for 12 weeks before it was properly diagnosed. In this time I had ultrasounds, xrays & cortisone injections under ultrasound & I was living on 100mg Voltaren ed. It was not until I was referred to the Sports Physician by the Physio that the severity of the damage was recognised by MRI scan. So get off your high horse Mr B Huge. I was merely pointing out that it depends on the damage that is presented as to what if anything a Physio can do specifically with shoulder injuries.

EMC wrote:

HaNs wrote:Yes they work well for me

do you use it for speeding recovery not only for injuries??

My wife used it during her first labour with my daughter (24hrs) - the contractons were good for relaxing the lower back and assiting with the pain. Unless you were suffering chronic pain (may be not in the context of rotator cuff) an EMS system may be of more use dependant on what you goal is. I'm no Physio though.

......you know the problem with Physios ..... Always uptight

Optimass wrote:......you know the problem with Physios ..... Always uptight

They might benefit from seeing a Sports Physician

Or maybe a nice authentic Thai massage

rose wrote:Or maybe a nice authentic Thai massage

That would be a nice "happy ending"

Physios have done wonders for my slew of injuries.

I just don't like much of what they have to say as far as prescriptions of exercise for healthy people. Telling people to squat high to save the knees isn't my idea of solid evidence-based advice

I have had major problems with my shoulder dislocating at random moments during trainning .My course of treatment has been Physio first then refered on to sports specialist(doc) .Finally I have been referd to Bone and Joint surgeon, surgery on the 3rd of feb .I will let you no how it goes

The shoulder injury club has a massive membership, welcome. Best advice is to seek out a physio. Ive had two rotator cuff muscle injuries, first one I trained through it and it still haunts me today off and on. The second one, I sought out a physio and with knowing how to strengthen it, I was back to full strength within 4 weeks.

My limited experience suggests, as already well documented, kick out the wide grip in favour of a closer grip. I have had trouble in the past and this pretty much solved all issues overnight.

Also you should train you rotator cuff in isolation on occasion. There are a few exercises around but use light weights and make sure your shoulders are well rested before attempting pressing movements. But just take it easy when injured, don't rush back into pb's etc... Rest up, I reckon it's my number one training tool!

go see an osteopath. i had a rotator cuff injury last year, went to an osteopath and haven't had trouble since